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THE VIETNAM WAR LIE ADMITTED up on 10/14/2009

THE VIETNAM WAR LIE ADMITTED
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Date: 10/14/2009

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Former CIA presidential adviser to Regan Bush, Ray McGovern speaks about the LIE at the G...

Former CIA presidential adviser to Regan Bush, Ray McGovern speaks about the LIE at the Gulf of Tonkin that thrust war upon Vietnam killing 1.5 million Vietnamese, 50,000+ Americans, 424+ Australians.

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